Anonymous asked: OMG this is such fucking bullshit. in a previous ask you claimed that trans men will be privileged in feminist/queer spaces and will have their voices heard over others (disputable!) therefore cannot be part of the movement. now you're saying that someone who is CAMAB and who will *sometimes* identify as male is welcome without a problem?! so a person who is IDENTIFYING as male and is SEEN as male in society is allowed, but trans men who face sexism arent?! this tumblr is whack. unfollowing asap

I feel I didn’t explain this properly and I apologize for that.

FYI, if the asker was DFAB and genderfluid with one gender being make my answer would have been the same.

first off, no said they are seen as male, but that they sometimes ID male. My opinion is, when you are IDing male, you benefit from sexism, when you don’t, you aren’t. I myself am genderfluid, but switch between female and agender. Likewise, when I ID female I have binary privilege, but when I am not binary, I don’t. I expect genderfluid folk with one gender being male to not make it about them on their male days as that is kinda fucked. I stick by my statement that I don’t want men in my sexism, and would appreciate if any GF folk who sometimes ID as male to respect that. And why the hell did you put asterisks around “sometimes”? fuck no, trans men’s voices being louder is not disputable, it’s a goddamn fact.

Again, I apologize if i didn’t explain that correctly and I wanna hear the other mod’s opinions.

~Nnyno

(I think you are referring to the post I made about what I think of trans men + no wave feminism? That wasn’t the sole reason for me saying trans men can’t be no wave feminists, btw.)

I agree with Nnyno. I expect genderfluid people who sometimes ID as male to recognize their privilege when they do so if they want to call themselves no wave feminists. Trans men are always heard over others. They’re always speaking over/for others. That’s, y’know, part of male privilege. It’s not disputable; you can see it in so many queer/feminist spaces, it’s not even funny.

There’s nothing wrong with not wanting men in our space and maybe it would have been better if we had asked genderfluid people who sometimes ID as male to back off when they are male? I don’t know if that makes sense. It’s what I think though.

-Zula